I stand corrected. The real message is that the incentives need to remain untouched because it will destroy an industry if they change anything and the next pay cut for that $450 a week prison guard could be substantially more than 2% if we lose the large amounts of money brought into the state by large productions.
I will see you Friday.
Jon Hendry wrote:
***This is a MISP Listserv message. Responses are sent to the list by default.*** ***For more info about MISP and the listserv, scroll to the bottom of the page*** * Mike $1500 is NOT my figure. Some gentleman who claimed to represent actors jumped up at the House Labor committee and put that figure forward as a reason to keep or even expand the present incentive structure. Really ? Thats a good argument to the $450 a week Prison Guard that they want to cut 2% ? Really ? Thanks for the support and the informed debateba480
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2010 14:25:22 -0700
Subject: Re: [MISP] SB 235 proposed Caps on Film Rebate
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Here's a slightly different perspective on SB 235 from a "small" independent producer's point of view.
First, I am opposed to HB 235 and any additional limitations on the way we invite large budget movies to New Mexico. I just spent some time this past week at Sundance and I can tell you that the other states are mounting a full court press to lure those productions away from us. If we begin changing or limiting our programs now, we lose.
Our biggest selling point to the outside world is that we have no caps, no sunsets, no massive hoops to jump through that delay payment of the incentives, and a highly trained and experienced crew base that can handle their jobs.
It is my sincerest hope (being an actor) that they will soon begin casting run of show principle roles in New Mexico instead of just using us for day player roles and background.
I do think we want to be careful how we represent what actors are paid. Jon's point is correct that the high paid actors come from out of state and thus are not eligible for rebate, but those of us who do get "$1500" a day (Jon's figure) sometimes who are instate actors only work one to 5 days a year. In addition, while crewmembers get generally less per day, they are working substantially more than actors are. Less than 25 New Mexico Actors actually made the minimum annual amount for SAG benefits last year.
That being said, it is important to note that this business has grown over the years, starting with the training for the crews and creation of infrastructure to support an industry to a point now where a lot of us who only dreamed of the movie industry have had a real opportunity to be a part of it.
The thing to pay attention to here is that it is still growing and our time as actors and small budget producers will come as long as we do not drive away the bigger budget shows that sustain our industry now.
However, caps or limitations on the current programs would send a message to the large budget shows that we do not want them here. The producers would hear that message loud and clear and go somewhere else and then the growth would stop and the rapid deterioration of the industry in New Mexico would begin. In addition, when I say rapid, based on my daily discussions with projects outside the state considering coming here, I firmly believe that it would be overnight.
A comment was made by a lawyer on the film funding panel discussion I attended at Sundance, hosted by Film Utah, that producers have the "fiscal responsibility" to go to the location where the best incentives are or risk recuperative lawsuits from their investors.
If we are to make movies here at all, we must keep the bigger productions coming to our state and to do that, we must remain perceptually and in reality the leader in film incentives, both financially, crew, and infrastructure wise.Mike Miller
Brent Morris wrote:***This is a MISP Listserv message. Responses are sent to the list by default.*** ***For more info about MISP and the listserv, scroll to the bottom of the page*** * I agree with Jon that we must be united in our stance here that this $2M cap per project is detrimental to our industry, and low budget filmmakers should also see it as such. I know there has been a lot of debate here about the lack of funding for smaller New Mexico-originated projects. And for those working in the low budget arena, a $2M cap might seem perfectly reasonable indicating a total budget of $8 million and up -- no small potatoes for many of us. Yet it seems to me that New Mexico's production industry has thrived on the bigger budget films and series, which have trained and developed a powerful work force who bounce back and forth between bigger and smaller budgets. It's much easier getting crew members to work low/no-budget projects after they've banked their hours and paid their mortgages from salaries on higher-paying gigs.
Even assuming the same amount of $8M and under projects choose to shoot here with such future caps in place (which I think is fallacious), those of us who work on those films know full well the budgets cannot support intensive construction, special effects and second units that put many local crew members and vendors to work, or schedules that last for much longer than six to eight weeks. I believe if these proposed caps are put in place New Mexico will become a second class production center, Moviemaker Magazine's recent blurb aside. It's not enough to live in a great place to be an independent filmmaker if you can't make a living doing so, and we owe many of our favorable rates and terms to conditions created by the presence of bigger industry here.LEAVING THE LIST /LIST INFO: To leave the list, please email us at: email@example.com For other list info, please visit: http://groups.google.com/group/nm-media-industries/web/media-industries-list-info Available in RSS: http://groups.google.com/group/nm-media-industries/feed/rss_v2_0_msgs.xml
I would look forward to hearing more detailed ideas for tightening up the rebates that would not discourage producers from seeking other locations. 6 month residency seems standard fare. I imagine we could spearhead some further innovations as Jon suggests that might benefit our state in the long run without scaring off out-of-state investment.
See you on Friday at Media Day.
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